I get the idea that the government is bad, but can we work towards some kind of solutions instead?
In some countries and in the countryside, I noticed that people just throw garbage out on the side of the road. This is almost the same mentality of how corporations in some countries just throw toxic chemicals in the river.
Government seems a solution here with laws and such. And local government usually organize some systems of garbage collection. Whether or not this is a solution, it is perceived as a solution.
The governments also pretend to solve garbage problems by exporting large volumes to other countries, like China, Nigeria and India. They pay the poor countries to accept our most toxic garbage. Usually with the pretend of "recycling", but it usually ends up on a pile anyway. Or in the air or ocean. Some recycling may be done by kids walking around in the toxic garbage.
Poor countries have a lot more problems with garbage (and sanitary). The famous plastic in the ocean problem comes from 3rd world countries. Some Greece islands have permanent burning garbage fires that produce several toxic chemicals. It seems that there is almost no good solution.
There are a lot of sources for garbage. From highly toxic chemicals from the production of cheap goods. Or the highly radioactive isotopes from hospitals and certain nuclear facilities. And from mass production in general. But even a house-hold has garbage, which piles up over many years.
From a market point of view, it is cheaper and easier to throw it on the side of the road somewhere. And this is what I see in many places. A pile of garbage near a parking place or in a small valley near a road. The same is with businesses that produce garbage and throw it in the river or burn it producing toxic gasses.
So from the garbage point of view, the free market makes a great mess. Because dumping garbage is free. So what would be a good solution?
All solutions that could work require some regulation and laws. To prevent people from throwing garbage on the side of the road. And to prevent companies from polluting the rivers and soil. Which would imply some form of government.
Every single government regulation can be substituted by private competing insurances. 5is means you direct make laws every time you decide to spend. I invite you to read the literature on the theory of voluntaryism and statelessness. I promise you it will be worth your while. A good start is this easy to read free book/audiobook:
I did a quick read, but found no solution. (might have missed it). It goes deep into self-protection, which is a different problem. The solution to hire protection, smells like "protection-money". So being well-armed and sufficiently trained, is the best solution for that. With the option for additional protection, while being in control.
I understand how voluntarism works for things that give profits. But not for things that produce garbage or even toxic garbage. I never see it answered. I often listen to James Corbett and the Anarchast podcast, where voluntarism is promoted. But the garbage is still unsolved in my opinion, therefore my comment.
I have a commercial background in health&safety, and found that most companies do not even want to look at health&safety. It does not give profits. And many workers do not want to bother. So in my experience, the free market does not work to increase health and safety. And in countries where people can dump garbage freely, they will dump the garbage. Because it is so visible and human, I want to mainly focus on this garbage problem.
Many "garbage" things are also perceived differently. Garbage = profit for poor children in India. While in reality it is also killing them. Nuclear garbage = very long term poison, which even the children will likely not notice. And cell-towers = slow health damage, but are seen by many as a blessing. Heroin = profits for many and poison for even more.
So even community driven there are many conflicting interests.
In some communities the church helps the community to stay clean and even help each other during personal crises. But that is usually combined with a faith isolated from other communities. Sometimes even sect-like (India). I don't think that counts as voluntarism. These communities are again under attack from the government (Mormones get a chemical disaster) or even from other countries (Christians are attacked in Syria) or from big Pharma (Tribes get the experimental mRNA injections).
I get the idea that the government is bad, but can we work towards some kind of solutions instead?
In some countries and in the countryside, I noticed that people just throw garbage out on the side of the road. This is almost the same mentality of how corporations in some countries just throw toxic chemicals in the river.
Government seems a solution here with laws and such. And local government usually organize some systems of garbage collection. Whether or not this is a solution, it is perceived as a solution.
The governments also pretend to solve garbage problems by exporting large volumes to other countries, like China, Nigeria and India. They pay the poor countries to accept our most toxic garbage. Usually with the pretend of "recycling", but it usually ends up on a pile anyway. Or in the air or ocean. Some recycling may be done by kids walking around in the toxic garbage.
Poor countries have a lot more problems with garbage (and sanitary). The famous plastic in the ocean problem comes from 3rd world countries. Some Greece islands have permanent burning garbage fires that produce several toxic chemicals. It seems that there is almost no good solution.
There are a lot of sources for garbage. From highly toxic chemicals from the production of cheap goods. Or the highly radioactive isotopes from hospitals and certain nuclear facilities. And from mass production in general. But even a house-hold has garbage, which piles up over many years.
From a market point of view, it is cheaper and easier to throw it on the side of the road somewhere. And this is what I see in many places. A pile of garbage near a parking place or in a small valley near a road. The same is with businesses that produce garbage and throw it in the river or burn it producing toxic gasses.
So from the garbage point of view, the free market makes a great mess. Because dumping garbage is free. So what would be a good solution?
All solutions that could work require some regulation and laws. To prevent people from throwing garbage on the side of the road. And to prevent companies from polluting the rivers and soil. Which would imply some form of government.
Every single government regulation can be substituted by private competing insurances. 5is means you direct make laws every time you decide to spend. I invite you to read the literature on the theory of voluntaryism and statelessness. I promise you it will be worth your while. A good start is this easy to read free book/audiobook:
https://mises.org/library/chaos-theory-two-essays-market-anarchy-0
I hope you like the questions that I ask..
I did a quick read, but found no solution. (might have missed it). It goes deep into self-protection, which is a different problem. The solution to hire protection, smells like "protection-money". So being well-armed and sufficiently trained, is the best solution for that. With the option for additional protection, while being in control.
I understand how voluntarism works for things that give profits. But not for things that produce garbage or even toxic garbage. I never see it answered. I often listen to James Corbett and the Anarchast podcast, where voluntarism is promoted. But the garbage is still unsolved in my opinion, therefore my comment.
I have a commercial background in health&safety, and found that most companies do not even want to look at health&safety. It does not give profits. And many workers do not want to bother. So in my experience, the free market does not work to increase health and safety. And in countries where people can dump garbage freely, they will dump the garbage. Because it is so visible and human, I want to mainly focus on this garbage problem.
Many "garbage" things are also perceived differently. Garbage = profit for poor children in India. While in reality it is also killing them. Nuclear garbage = very long term poison, which even the children will likely not notice. And cell-towers = slow health damage, but are seen by many as a blessing. Heroin = profits for many and poison for even more.
So even community driven there are many conflicting interests.
In some communities the church helps the community to stay clean and even help each other during personal crises. But that is usually combined with a faith isolated from other communities. Sometimes even sect-like (India). I don't think that counts as voluntarism. These communities are again under attack from the government (Mormones get a chemical disaster) or even from other countries (Christians are attacked in Syria) or from big Pharma (Tribes get the experimental mRNA injections).
You are asking me how a stateless society would solve problems that the state obviously doesn't, and even exacerbates.