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Good job. Thanks again.

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Aaaahhhrr.

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Thank you, Bart. I appreciate you

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No it wasn’t, it was built just like Ancient Greece and Rome on the divine right of kings and freedom for those that could afford it. Its power and freedom to act on the world stage were secured through slavery and resource extraction.

The concept of personal freedom was introduced to Europeans by the people around the Great Lakes during the contact era. These ideas filtered back and sparked the thinking of the Enlightenment. Some of the structures of power fell, but many remained, particularly England. The personal freedom learned from the North American indigenous was not extended to the full population until well into 20th century. Some of those freedoms are under threat now, as the current Barons are securing their power and preventing popular uprising demanding the distribution of power and restoration of freedoms again.

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Basically you didn’t read the article, and you’re commenting because you didn’t like the headline.

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I read it friend. There just not that much there other than a lot of generalizations of other cultures and a theory that the fact that we struggle with our history means that we’re the only ones that hold freedom as a value.

True, I didn’t like the headline.

True, I gave it a more critical read than it deserved because of that.

I did initially find you theory interesting and was looking forward to see how you supported it. It would have been more interesting to see how other cultures struggle with their history and how it impacts their valuation of freedom. But claiming that other cultures don’t have internal debates about their history is just wrong. China is still working through the Cultural Revolution and how it shaped their present and future. Every culture does this.

You have an interesting mind, but it is stuck in orthodoxy right now. It would do you a world of good to read more broadly, there is so much out there. You’re in to something, just do the research to get there instead of relying on your own assumptions.

I just finished ‘Against the Grain’ by James C. Scott. It looks at early evidence of state building. It could give more insight into the loss of freedom that sedentism imposed on people, how hard it was to both keep people within the state and raiders out.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_the_Grain:_A_Deep_History_of_the_Earliest_States

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If you read it, you wouldn’t be making questions whose answers are in it. So, you’re either lying or you can’t read English very well.

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Oooh this is a fun new strategy for deflection, let me try…

You can’t have read my reply because I didn’t have any questions in it.

You’re right, this is fun, your turn…

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You’re speak like an insecure teenager desperately needing to one-up others than wanting to discuss with genuine curiosity. Blocked for being a whiney little faggot

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