I found it quite insane that "god" had to give Moses the Ten Commandments to tell people how to live.
Did people not already know that we shouldn't kill eachother or steal or cheat?
If we look at native tribes like the American Indians, they didn't need to be told what is moral or not.
Gurdjieff spoke about how many have an exo-morality, a shell of morality that comes from society.
I would guess that living in big cities run by kings and other tyrants lead to conditions where people were butting heads with each other. What better way to make people on edge than to make them compete for limited resources while the kings and clergy siphon off most of the profit and resources!
These days, I find it absurd that these objective morality cultists are against victimless "crimes" such as abortion and drugs. Meanwhile they're fine with blowing kids up in Gaza (cause their gods support it) and taking toxic medicines that big pharma peddles to them and legal drugs like alcohol that destroy lives and livers.
You can tell when someone is deluded about reality when they romanticize the past as "better times". Yeah a few decades ago we also had apartheid, even in the "advanced" USA.
Thanks. Last time I tried to debate this I was called unaccountable, nihilist, hedonist, etc. I don’t debate over things that people seem to be emotionally invested in. There has never ever been a single debate in history where anyone changed his mind anyway
I've never seen lz call names in that way, for what it's worth.
I think the history of civilization is a series of debates, but maybe we're defining debates differently - I think any time anyone puts forth an argument it's a debate.
If they didn't matter that would mean books, philosophy, thinking, etc. is pointless imo.
I found it quite insane that "god" had to give Moses the Ten Commandments to tell people how to live.
Did people not already know that we shouldn't kill eachother or steal or cheat?
If we look at native tribes like the American Indians, they didn't need to be told what is moral or not.
Gurdjieff spoke about how many have an exo-morality, a shell of morality that comes from society.
I would guess that living in big cities run by kings and other tyrants lead to conditions where people were butting heads with each other. What better way to make people on edge than to make them compete for limited resources while the kings and clergy siphon off most of the profit and resources!
These days, I find it absurd that these objective morality cultists are against victimless "crimes" such as abortion and drugs. Meanwhile they're fine with blowing kids up in Gaza (cause their gods support it) and taking toxic medicines that big pharma peddles to them and legal drugs like alcohol that destroy lives and livers.
You can tell when someone is deluded about reality when they romanticize the past as "better times". Yeah a few decades ago we also had apartheid, even in the "advanced" USA.
They're nostalgia cultists.
Thank you for adding context to my article.
It would be badass if you did a debate with liquidzulu, he'll debate anyone and is an honest dude who doesn't resort to name calling.
His philosophical project is the reconciliation between objectivism and anarchocapitalism.
I think the debate would prove fruitful.
Thanks. Last time I tried to debate this I was called unaccountable, nihilist, hedonist, etc. I don’t debate over things that people seem to be emotionally invested in. There has never ever been a single debate in history where anyone changed his mind anyway
I've never seen lz call names in that way, for what it's worth.
I think the history of civilization is a series of debates, but maybe we're defining debates differently - I think any time anyone puts forth an argument it's a debate.
If they didn't matter that would mean books, philosophy, thinking, etc. is pointless imo.