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David Maren's avatar

This is a very thoughtful article, and you make some good points e.g. how can God be moral when the act of childbirth is traumatizing — we're plucked from peaceful nonexistence into a harsh world.

The problem lies in understanding God. It's impossible for us to fully understand God, so we try to humanize it using manmade concepts such as "morality".

The prevailing belief is that God put pain and suffering into the world to test our faith. But that is just as much an opinion as "God is wrathful" or "God is all-loving". We can only discuss beliefs, not facts, which makes the conversation difficult.

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The EVIL Lich's avatar

"Isn’t it cruel to dangle in front of an innocent life joys and wonders that will never come to pass?"

I've always thought, one of the worst parts of this world, is that we have such vivid imaginations and creativity to imagine better ones. The ones we create in our fiction and media are so much more beautiful than our own.

I have heard Christians argue that suffering may not be such a bad thing, because we read stories that involve characters going through suffering, and enjoy those stories. But the ways the characters die and suffer in these stories are way more beautiful than the ways we die and suffer.

I watch characters embodying archetypes rise up, and colorfully fight against black evil. They die beautifully against it, or succeed destroying it, and get rewarded with peace and prosperity.

Meanwhile we die of "complications" in hospitals, hooked up to tubes and paying thousands of dollars. And we can't even fight against the big evil people, because they are embedded in our systems. :/

We just seem to be better world creators than God lmao.

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