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The Phantom Honker's avatar

There were parts of this that were painful read. Self esteem in the shitter mostly. It took me over fifty years to finally to discover why.

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Sotiris Rex's avatar

Please tell me more.

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The Phantom Honker's avatar

Growing up with malignant narcissistic parent, who like you say, felt I was in debt to them, sucked the self esteem from me at every given opportunity. It wasn't until my early fifties that I finally cut all contact. No bitterness or anger, just we're done and thanks for the life lessons.

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Sotiris Rex's avatar

So sorry to hear that man. I hope you managed to build a good life for yourself regardless. No, you owe your abusive parents absolutely nothing.

https://sotiris.substack.com/p/what-you-owe-your-children

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Julie Dee's avatar

My dad was like the one you describe. Bought me lots of stuff, chucked money at things but rarely had time for us (me and my brother) and when he did it felt like a favour rather than a true interaction.

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Sotiris Rex's avatar

Awful. It amazes me how little most parents value their children

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Verity Love's avatar

Sotiris, you almost described my childhood to a T. I was raised by 2 narcissistic psychopaths who were abusers, mentally, physically, emotionally and sexually (my dad the last one).

I am and was an unconditional BEing, though I lost it for awhile after 18 years of abuse, but I've been back after much energy healing.I have found most people aren't ready to receive unconditional love. I am deemed weak, which is the farthest from the truth.

Another great article.

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Sotiris Rex's avatar

Thank you and I am really sorry you had to go through that horribleness. I hope you know you didn’t deserve it. And I hope you’ve found again your true innocent self before you were taken over by trauma.

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Verity Love's avatar

Oh, I suffered PTSD until the energy healing. I'm fine now. I realized years ago I wasn't to blame, but not during the abuse--I felt I must have been an awful BEing in a past life. I'm good now and don't feel any sympathy is needed. I appreciate you resonating with this subject, but I'm good.

I resonated along with many other people when Cameron Day posted this article:

https://shiftfrequency.com/cameron-day-the-birth-bump-being-born-in-the-wrong-family/?fb_source=pubv1

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Sotiris Rex's avatar

Thank you for sharing. I'll read it.

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Smedley Butler's avatar

"spanking children (literal child abuse punishable by law)"

and the Law is just another mans word, a stranger mans word at that, and what do all mother and fathers tell their children about strangers?......

There is a degree of physical interaction that may be necessary with a mother, father and their children. There are clearly many displays in nature of other mammals physically scolding, correcting, stopping, preventing their offspring and my father and mother was no different...Lie, not tell the truth, do something you know or were told was not acceptable to do and still did it meant punishment from the only two people that have that right, after all it was their decision to have the children so it is their discretion and this cannot be denied.

Nothing abuses 'mankind' more than government and the laws or words of other men that government order followers obey.

Most of this abuses that does occur would have more to do with the immoral, unethical, violent "system of enFORCEment" we are all immersed, grow and live within, constantly invaded by all the propaganda, psy ops, 'Bernays' motion pictures, strangers that TELL A VISION, compulsory schooling of the Prussian model...etc...etc...

Spanking children may be wrong but telling me the big bad government will punish me "by Law" is NOT a reason to NOT punish your children when children have committed and act or displayed less than ethical, moral, logical, common sense behavior.

Violence rolls down hill, when the government is violent, immoral, unethical, so to will most everyone else be of the same and thus no one should be shocked children are abused by mothers and fathers who are abused by government and it's "system of enFORCEment"

Many are just too immersed in the pop CULTure, pro sports, polyticks, 'vision telling', motion picture, gaming fantasy make believe bull shit life to even have a cognizant intelligent thought about it and continue to just accept it not realizing how all the ills of life are because of it.

There is a much deeper problem here than just blaming the mother and father.

We all are raised in a clown world.....everything is backwards, upside down, illogical.......

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Sotiris Rex's avatar

First: there can be laws without government. I’ve written extensively about this. Second: child abuse is a much bigger problem than government, and this coming from the most anti-government guy you’ll meet. It is precisely child abuse that conditions statism and abusive authority-worship

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